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Conversations Matter – Death & Dying (3)

The path to paradise runs through the graveyard.

It is important to have meaningful conversations about death and dying.

People who want to die well must be willing to confront their finitude. We do not have to accept death, invite it, or wish for it. But we must be prepared to say, “Yes, I am human and therefore mortal. One day I will die.” We cannot both cling to the indefinite extension of life and effectively prepare for death.

.. our society today leaves little room for the contemplation of human finitude. To stave off thoughts of mortality, we like to keep everything around us looking new. We design our clothes to be fashionable for a year or two. Our technology is governed by the theory of planned obsolescence. Our built environment comes with the expectation that certain buildings be demolished and rebuilt every specified number of years. And more than ever, scientists and beauty experts alike are striving to find that elixir for infinite youth. Apart from our life-insurance policies, little reminds us of our mortality.1Dugdale, L.S.. The Lost Art of Dying .

As recognized in earlier posts, meaningful conversations about death and dying are difficult and rarely occur. Essential in keeping us aware of our mortality, it is important to initiate and welcome them.

Awareness of our mortality is essential to die well, ” … ars moriendi hit the mark with its assertion that in order to die well, you must take mortality into account, even when death seems a long way off.”2 Dugdale, L.S.The Lost Art of Dying

For most people death is thought to be “a long way off”; which is not unreasonable considering the likelihood we will “go quickly” is low and most elderly will die a slow death,
One study found that most elderly are diagnosed as having a disease three years before it will eventually end their lives. On top of that a Rand study found that “Americans will I usually spend two or more of their final Years disabled enough to need someone else to help with routine activities of daily living because of chronic illness3The Art of Dying Rob Moll

Expected life spans give people confidence that they will enjoy many years after retirement, which, for many, is coming much earlier than sixty-five. Good news , but it reinforces illusions of immortality and defers meaningful conversations we need to die well.

In the ancient world, victorious Roman generals paraded triumphantly through the streets before adoring crowds. Accounts of these “triumphs” vary, but typically the general was accompanied in his chariot by a servant whose one task was to whisper repeatedly in the general’s ear, Hominem te memento! or, “Remember that you are but human!” The servant’s role was to ensure that the general did not start thinking of himself as godlike, as immortal.4 Dugdale, L.S. The Lost Art of Dying

It might not be a bad idea to have someone around who whisper in our ear “you are going to die”. Maybe a Death Pastor? 🙂 Just thinking.
On a more practical basis, we can be reminded of our mortality with memento mori (remember you must die). Popular in medieval Europe various types of memento mori — were highly popular, they may have been too popular. They were so commonplace that many people stopped paying any attention to them. Perhaps employing some comtemporary momento mori would counter our avoidance of death and stimulate meaningful conversation. As one example, I have included our local cemetery in my daily walk route. Some tattoos are memento mori. Prominently displayed cremation urns are helpful reminders. There are a lot of creative ideas which can remind us “remember you must die”.

It is important to have meaningful conversations before there is an immanent death crisis. In those circumstances, the likelihood of a dying well experience is remote for both the dying and their loved ones.

I believe Timothy Keller’s recent death exemplified what it means to die well. His final words were: “There is no downside for me leaving, not in the slightest.”

More to come.

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    Dugdale, L.S.. The Lost Art of Dying .
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    The Art of Dying Rob Moll
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    Dugdale, L.S. The Lost Art of Dying

Conversations Matter – It ain’t easy

You can measure the health of relationships, teams, and organizations by measuring the lag time between when problems are identified and when they are resolved. The only reliable path to resolving problems is to find the shortest path to effective conversation.
…The longer the lag time during which you act out your feelings rather than talk them out, the more damage you’ll do to both relationships and results.

Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes are High

This post continues reflections on Heather Holleman’s The Six Conversations, I will return to Death & Dying later, frankly I need a break.
In writing this series and attempting to have meaningful conversations, I have discovered meaningful conversations are not easy. It is no surprise death and dying conversations are difficult, but generally it ain’t easy to have meaningful conversations.

Based on experience, I contend that there is an inverse proportional relationship between meaningful conversations and the caliber of relationship. i.e. the closer the relationship the more difficult, or less likely, it is for meaningful conversations to occur. There are exceptions, but the key point is “meaningful”. Close relationships are typically filled with fun, entertaining and informative conversations but when meaningful and/or serious topics arise— not so much. Either the conversation shuts down or it is diverted to a less risky topic.

If you fail to discuss issues you have with your boss, your life partner, your neighbor, or your peer, will those issues magically disappear? No. Instead, they will become the lens you see the other person through. And how you see always shows up in how you act. Your resentment will show up in how you treat the other person.

Crucial Conversations

That is a reality that should prompt serious assessment of the health of the relationship or, at a minimum, an examination of how qualified I am to have meaningful conversations. Hopefully these posts help us become better qualified.


Barriers to meaningful conversations

FEAR AND SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS
IN chapter 7 Holleman observes: “most people fear more than anything else in the world. Shame. They fear exposure. They fear looking stupid. They become incredibly self-conscious that people are evaluating them.”
I believe that to be true, and with those closest to us, the fear of shame rises exponentially. Reasons why meaningful conversations are often more difficult are several. Holleman identifies shame and self-consciousness as a significant factor.. I found these citations worthwhile counsel for dealing with shame and self-consciousness:

The more weakness, failure, vulnerability, and shortcomings you display in conversation, the more close conversation partners become. Why? It’s because you can experience acceptance, unconditional love, and a common bond of shared weakness.

(p. 110).

“self-disclosure is the process of revealing personal information to another person, and it is a well-documented behavior that promotes liking and closeness within new relationships…the more you share embarrassing or vulnerable things about yourself, the more people will like you, trust you, and connect with you”

(p.110-111)

Other people need conversation. You offer a great gift to them when you enter into a conversation. Margaret Wheatley, an expert in community building, reminds us that “we can also take courage from the fact that many people are longing to be in conversation again. We are hungry for a chance to talk. People want to tell their story, and are willing to listen to yours. People want to talk about their concerns and struggles. Too many of us feel isolated, strange, or invisible. Conversation helps end that.”

(pg. 112-113).

Other barriers which come to mind are:

Secular society
Disenchantment
Meaningful conversations are rituals in which the presence of scared can be seen and felt and experienced. In a society in which belief in God is just one human possibility among others; they are are avoided and/or discountedbecoming casualties of a secular mindset which eschews the sacred and resists transcendence.

Individualism
In a society where concern for self is the highest priority, there is no foundation for meaningful conversations, which require empathy and concern for others .

Digital Communication
There is an increasing reliance on digital communication to “converse”with others. Useful and sometimes helpful, digital communication cannot replace human face to face interaction required for meaningful conversation.

Noise/Distractions
The difficulty of having meaningful conversations amid the noise and distractions of every day circumstances should not be underestimated. Engagement with others is subordinated by smartphones constantly notify us of texts, email, Tik Tock, Facebook, Twitter notifications. The secular mindset even often makes children and pets distractions.

Proximity
Without question, face to face is the context most conducive to meaningful conversations. The way communities and families are structured and function often inhibit proximity.

Other barriers could be mentioned, and those above deserve more explanation; but I think that is enough to support a contention that meaningful conversations ain’t easy.
I am increasingly convinced the absence of meaningful and loving conversations is a major factor contributing to discord and division in our society including families and churches.

Closing thoughts

  • Meaningful conversations are rare and precious. Due to their transcendent nature, they are received, not manufactured; like a fragrant rose, we must attend to their presence or miss full experience. Pay attention to relationships and such rare occasions, stop and smell the roses.
  • For conversations to be meaningful and loving , participants will value and exhibit concern for others, empathy, humility —overtly Christian qualities.
    Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others”. Philippians 2:3–4;
    which explains, in part, my assertion that meaningful loving conversations are a spiritual discipline.
    Meaningful, loving conversations are not exclusive to Christians but the reality of a famine of meaningful conversations among Christians, and between Christians and others, is cause for deep concern and self-examination.

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Conversations Matter – Death & Dying (2)

Post # 2 — Conversations Matter – Death & Dying. “The Slavery of Death” and “The Lost Art of Dying”, and “The Denial of Death” are helpful resources. Interestingly, several recent sermons and podcasts have addressed death and dying. Our local cemetery is apart my regular walking route.
The more I engage the subject of death and dying, the more I am impressed with the profound implications they have for living.This is the first post addressing some thoughts and ideas about death and dying.

Why isn’t death and dying talked about ?

The following citations can be a helpful in beginning to answer — Why isn’t death and dying talked about ? Emphasis is mine.

“Americans like to appear as if they give death hardly any thought at all.” The American lifestyle is thus “for people to create a living world where death seems abnormal and accidental. [Americans] must create a living world where life is so full, so secure, and so rich with possibilities that it gives no hint of death and deprivation.” We accomplish this feat, through acts of death avoidance. Americans live with “the conviction that the lives we live are not essentially and intrinsically mortal.” But this is a neurotic fantasy. McGill calls it a “dream,” an “illusory realm of success.” So how is this illusion maintained? “Americans accomplish this illusion by devoting themselves to expunging from their lives every appearance, every intimation of death. . . . All traces of weakness, debility, ugliness and helplessness must be kept away from every part of a person’s life. The task must be done every single day if such persons really are to convince us that they do not carry the smell of death within them.”

Vast portions of American Christianity are aimed at propping up the illusion, giving religious sanction to American death avoidance. We see this in the triumphalism within many sectors of Christianity—the almost manic optimism of church culture that cannot admit any hint of debility, disease, death, or decay. These churches are filled with smiling cheerful people who respond with “Fine!” to any inquiry regarding their social, financial, emotional, physical, or spiritual well-being. Due to many churches’ explicit and implicit religious sanctioning of the American success ethos, church members become too afraid to show each other their weakness, brokenness, failure, and vulnerability. Such admissions are avoided, as they threaten to expose the neurotic lie that sits at the heart of Christian culture and American society—that death doesn’t exist.

[““You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.”
Genesis 3:4 NIV]

Death and Life: An American Theology – David McGill via The Slavery of Death- Richard Beck

We don’t know how to deal with death, and so we ignore it as much and for as long as possible. We concentrate on life. The dying don’t want to impose their plight on the people they love, even though they may be eager, even aching to talk about what it means to them now that they face it. Doctors and others fail to pick up on this desire, because they project their own reluctance to deal with death onto the patient. Sometimes the dying will ask that their loved ones make no fuss over them, hold no ceremony, just cremate them and move on; as though they were doing the bereaved a favour in colluding in their aversion to death.
Death undermines meaning. Something important is lost when one forgets this. …
The connection of death with meaning is reflected in two often-discussed features of human life as we understand it today.
The first is the way in which facing death, seeing one’s life as about to come to an end, can concentrate the issue of what we have lived for. What has it all amounted to? In other words, death can bring out the question of meaning in its most acute form.
The second is the way that those bereaved, or left behind, struggle to hold on to the meaning they have built with the deceased, while (unavoidably) letting go of the person. This is what funeral rites have always been meant to do, whatever other goals they have served. And since a crucial way of doing this is to connect this person, even in his death, with something eternal, or at the very least ongoing, the collapse of a sense of the eternal brings on a void, a kind of crisis.

The Sting of Death – Charles Taylor

…the fear of death must be present behind all our normal functioning, in order for the organism to be armed toward self-preservation. But the fear of death cannot be present constantly in one’s mental functioning, else the organism could not function. Zilboorg continues: If this fear were as constantly conscious, we should be unable to function normally. It must be properly repressed to keep us living with any modicum of comfort. We know very well that to repress means more than to put away and to forget that which was put away and the place where we put it. It means also to maintain a constant psychological effort to keep the lid on and inwardly never relax our watchfulness.
And so we can understand what seems like an impossible paradox: the ever-present fear of death in the normal biological functioning of our instinct of self-preservation, as well as our utter obliviousness to this fear in our conscious life: Therefore in normal times we move about actually without ever believing in our own death, as if we fully believed in our own corporeal immortality. We are intent on mastering death….
A man will say, of course, that he knows he will die some day, but he does not really care. He is having a good time with living, and he does not think about death and does not care to bother about it—but this is a purely intellectual, verbal admission. The affect of fear is repressed.

The Denial of Death pg 15-16

A few thoughts:

  • My church experience confirms death avoidance as the norm. That is troubling in at least two ways:
    First, it is clear indication of the infusion of American society into the Christian culture.
    Second, it is evidence that humanity, including Christianity continues to believe Satan’s lie, “You will not certainly die.”.
  • Death provides a perspective on life like nothing else; which explains, in part why we don’t talk about it. We don’t want to face hard truths. It is terrible enough to get to the end of life and realize how meaningless it was with no hope to change anything. “in order to die well, you must take mortality into account, even when death seems a long way off”
  • I am finding this discussion theologically challenging. Its tentacles reach deep into some long held assumptions.
  • A prime example of a theological quandary comes via a Christian’s response to a doctor’s suggestion that life saving measures for her terminally ill loved one be abandoned:“No, Doctor,” she replied. “We are Christians, and we believe that Jesus can heal. We believe in miracles. You do whatever you can to keep him alive.” 
  • Finally: A recent Harvard study found that patients with high levels of support from their religious communities are more likely to choose aggressive life support and to die in intensive-care units. They were also less likely to enroll in hospice. Why might this be?

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